SANTA BARBARA, CA - FEBRUARY 02: (L-R) Dr. Erik Cordes, Director Ivan Hurzeler, Director Velcrow Ripper, Director Nova Ami, Director Marc Pierschel, Director Gail Osherenko, director Susan Kucera and moderator Michael Albright speak at the Environmental Filmmakers Seminar during The 33rd Santa Barbara International Film Festival at the the Lobero Theatre on February 2, 2018 in Santa Barbara, California. (Photo by Rebecca Sapp/Getty Images for SBIFF)